Comments on: 60 in 60: #11 – Wollstonecraft’s A Vindication of the Rights of Women (Penguin’s Great Ideas) http://www.jeffvandermeer.com/2008/12/25/60-in-60-11-wollstonecrafts-a-vindication-of-the-rights-of-women-penguins-great-ideas/ Jeff VanderMeer Fri, 19 Mar 2010 23:38:31 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: Jeff VanderMeer http://www.jeffvandermeer.com/2008/12/25/60-in-60-11-wollstonecrafts-a-vindication-of-the-rights-of-women-penguins-great-ideas/comment-page-1/#comment-18405 Jeff VanderMeer Sat, 27 Dec 2008 19:48:19 +0000 http://www.jeffvandermeer.com/?p=2824#comment-18405 Thanks for that, wench. I'm sorry that the Army was so crappy that way. Jeff Thanks for that, wench. I’m sorry that the Army was so crappy that way.
Jeff

]]> By: Ranking the Classics: Week Two of the 60 in 60, with Swift in the Lead | Appml http://www.jeffvandermeer.com/2008/12/25/60-in-60-11-wollstonecrafts-a-vindication-of-the-rights-of-women-penguins-great-ideas/comment-page-1/#comment-18401 Ranking the Classics: Week Two of the 60 in 60, with Swift in the Lead | Appml Sat, 27 Dec 2008 19:44:19 +0000 http://www.jeffvandermeer.com/?p=2824#comment-18401 [...] - Mary Wollstonecraft’s A Vindication of the Rights of Women - Appealing to both the heart and the head, A Vindication… is a stirring refutation of [...] [...] – Mary Wollstonecraft’s A Vindication of the Rights of Women – Appealing to both the heart and the head, A Vindication… is a stirring refutation of [...]

]]> By: wench http://www.jeffvandermeer.com/2008/12/25/60-in-60-11-wollstonecrafts-a-vindication-of-the-rights-of-women-penguins-great-ideas/comment-page-1/#comment-18380 wench Sat, 27 Dec 2008 02:38:48 +0000 http://www.jeffvandermeer.com/?p=2824#comment-18380 Girl of 17, complete geek, joined the Army. Spent 6 years proving over and over and over that I was both willing and able to go into the mess and mud and lift heavy objects and be tough enough to do the job. Got looked at like a freak every time. Had to practically push other people (the guys) off the hard work so I could do it and thereby prove that I could handle the job, or they'd gently, kindly leave me on the sidelines, twiddling my thumbs with nothing to do. Eventually got tired of fighting to be seen as a human & not just a set of boobs (re: liability to the real work), quit the Army and got a job where I could use my brains and wouldn't be judged on my gender. Nobody in my office today thinks I'm weak or not technically minded because I'm a girl. It's so nice. Girl of 17, complete geek, joined the Army. Spent 6 years proving over and over and over that I was both willing and able to go into the mess and mud and lift heavy objects and be tough enough to do the job. Got looked at like a freak every time. Had to practically push other people (the guys) off the hard work so I could do it and thereby prove that I could handle the job, or they’d gently, kindly leave me on the sidelines, twiddling my thumbs with nothing to do. Eventually got tired of fighting to be seen as a human & not just a set of boobs (re: liability to the real work), quit the Army and got a job where I could use my brains and wouldn’t be judged on my gender.

Nobody in my office today thinks I’m weak or not technically minded because I’m a girl. It’s so nice.

]]> By: jeff vandermeer http://www.jeffvandermeer.com/2008/12/25/60-in-60-11-wollstonecrafts-a-vindication-of-the-rights-of-women-penguins-great-ideas/comment-page-1/#comment-18321 jeff vandermeer Thu, 25 Dec 2008 20:00:12 +0000 http://www.jeffvandermeer.com/?p=2824#comment-18321 Yes, was aware re Shelley. Yes, was aware re Shelley.

]]> By: Larry http://www.jeffvandermeer.com/2008/12/25/60-in-60-11-wollstonecrafts-a-vindication-of-the-rights-of-women-penguins-great-ideas/comment-page-1/#comment-18320 Larry Thu, 25 Dec 2008 17:35:39 +0000 http://www.jeffvandermeer.com/?p=2824#comment-18320 I'm only familiar with Wollstonecraft's essay via references elsewhere. You did know that she was Mary Shelley's mother, right? Fascinating how revolutionary some of those Romantics are, even today. As for constant inequality, it's hard to say. On the surface, no, as I'm a middle class, Caucasian (well, mostly) straight male. But I suppose if I wanted to scratch the surface, being a Catholic in the heart of the Protestant Bible Belt sometimes leads to some weird looks, especially from my family members. My job situation, being a youngish male teaching in a profession that is 80% female, has led to some interesting biases, often leaving me annoyed as a result. But outside of that, nothing really. Except of course for that time when I was walking down Calle Ocho in Miami with a Haitian friend of mine several years ago and being addressed in English instead of the Spanish he received, despite both of us being proficient enough that we were switching languages as we were walking to the store. That memory has stayed with me for over five years now. I’m only familiar with Wollstonecraft’s essay via references elsewhere. You did know that she was Mary Shelley’s mother, right? Fascinating how revolutionary some of those Romantics are, even today.

As for constant inequality, it’s hard to say. On the surface, no, as I’m a middle class, Caucasian (well, mostly) straight male. But I suppose if I wanted to scratch the surface, being a Catholic in the heart of the Protestant Bible Belt sometimes leads to some weird looks, especially from my family members. My job situation, being a youngish male teaching in a profession that is 80% female, has led to some interesting biases, often leaving me annoyed as a result. But outside of that, nothing really. Except of course for that time when I was walking down Calle Ocho in Miami with a Haitian friend of mine several years ago and being addressed in English instead of the Spanish he received, despite both of us being proficient enough that we were switching languages as we were walking to the store. That memory has stayed with me for over five years now.

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