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		<title>By: Tribhanga Here, There and Everywhere &#187; Givvup Only Are There</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tribhanga Here, There and Everywhere &#187; Givvup Only Are There</dc:creator>
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		<description>[...] So about two years ago I had linked to the blog of a guy called Anil Menon, where I had got a whole bunch of fundaes which I used to make questions for my KQA quiz. This year, I found out that Anil Menon is actually a sci-fi writer. Here is an interview of Anil Menon by Vandana Singh. [...]</description>
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		<title>By: K.Mohan(Mohan Sanjeevan)</title>
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		<dc:creator>K.Mohan(Mohan Sanjeevan)</dc:creator>
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		<description>I happen to be one of the science ficiton writers from India &gt; Incidentally I write in Tamil and English.Actually we have been looking for the right kind of publishers. My science fiction is at www.kerala.cm/science. Interested people can take a look.

Looking forward to more interaction here.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I happen to be one of the science ficiton writers from India &gt; Incidentally I write in Tamil and English.Actually we have been looking for the right kind of publishers. My science fiction is at <a href="http://www.kerala.cm/science" rel="nofollow">http://www.kerala.cm/science</a>. Interested people can take a look.</p>
<p>Looking forward to more interaction here.</p>
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		<title>By: Suparno</title>
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		<dc:creator>Suparno</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Dec 2008 19:47:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wonderful discussion!
I am writing my dissertation on SF by authors from India/of Indian origin (I hope this &quot;lebel&quot; while pointing at a specific direction does not put the author in a tight box). I would greatly appreciate some reading suggestions on recent publications.
Thanks
Suparno</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wonderful discussion!<br />
I am writing my dissertation on SF by authors from India/of Indian origin (I hope this &#8220;lebel&#8221; while pointing at a specific direction does not put the author in a tight box). I would greatly appreciate some reading suggestions on recent publications.<br />
Thanks<br />
Suparno</p>
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		<title>By: Vandana Singh on spec-fic and other things - Ultrabrown</title>
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		<dc:creator>Vandana Singh on spec-fic and other things - Ultrabrown</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Oct 2008 19:54:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] from a sort of mass autism.&quot;Also read the thoughtful discussion about Indian and Western sci-fi on this post (and its comments), a conversation with Anil Menon. I loved Singh’s two Younguncle books for [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Anil Menon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anil Menon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Oct 2008 14:57:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ref: &quot;The list by Anil above is a mixed one, some odd choices with some very good ones–if you don’t mind my saying so, Anil.&quot; 

No, you&#039;re right. Some of the choices are indeed odd and have nothing to do with the genre. I&#039;d intended a Whitman&#039;s sampler of titles, and needless to say, that always translates to a nutty mix. 

Look forward to reading your book. There&#039;s a real need for something definitive.  

Anil</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ref: &#8220;The list by Anil above is a mixed one, some odd choices with some very good ones–if you don’t mind my saying so, Anil.&#8221; </p>
<p>No, you&#8217;re right. Some of the choices are indeed odd and have nothing to do with the genre. I&#8217;d intended a Whitman&#8217;s sampler of titles, and needless to say, that always translates to a nutty mix. </p>
<p>Look forward to reading your book. There&#8217;s a real need for something definitive.  </p>
<p>Anil</p>
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		<title>By: Ashok Banker</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ashok Banker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Oct 2008 14:35:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>All the best to you too, Vandana. Of course there are many fine people in the USA, in the SFF publishing field, and certainly their passion and support of the genres are infectious. I actually know quite a few, but I don&#039;t know if I&#039;m willing to take the risk of entering into a professional relationship with any genre publisher in the US just yet, no matter how great the rewards (and obviously, for an author, getting a publishing contract is all to the good, business-wise), because I&#039;m very wary now. But that&#039;s my personal experience, not necessarily a judgement of the genre as a whole. In any case, as you may be aware, I&#039;m doing well enough in India and the fact that the genres are growing so well here is itself the most encouraging fact of all! India&#039;s actually on the upwards slope of a very promising upswing in the publishing field and the future is especially bright for writers of genre. For instance, Vikram Chandra&#039;s Sacred Games actually sold as well in India as in the US, and is only one of several such recent titles to do so. The day has already come when English-language books in India can earn an author (myself included) far more than US advances and royalties, and that&#039;s money coming from readers who ALL &#039;get&#039; what we&#039;re doing--as against the few who could be expected to understand Indian culture, motifs, characters, backgrounds, language, etc in the American publishing genres. 

The list by Anil above is a mixed one, some odd choices with some very good ones--if you don&#039;t mind my saying so, Anil. Also, several of them are already published in the UK and USA. If I had to make a list of genre writers who aren&#039;t published in the USA or UK (and not even widely in India, or in English in India), it would be far, far longer and a very different list. In fact, that&#039;s a list I am actually compiling--originally, I began doing it several years ago for John Clute who had asked me to contribute to the new edition of his Encyclopaedia, but I later decided it merited a book unto itself. Still in the research stage, but I am continuing to track that strange nameless beast that shambles through this &#039;dark&#039; subcontinent, roaring in a melange of Sanskrit, Gujarati, Urdu, Thamizh, Malayalam, Oriya, and so many other tongues. We are many; our name is Bharat!

All the best,

Ashok</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>All the best to you too, Vandana. Of course there are many fine people in the USA, in the SFF publishing field, and certainly their passion and support of the genres are infectious. I actually know quite a few, but I don&#8217;t know if I&#8217;m willing to take the risk of entering into a professional relationship with any genre publisher in the US just yet, no matter how great the rewards (and obviously, for an author, getting a publishing contract is all to the good, business-wise), because I&#8217;m very wary now. But that&#8217;s my personal experience, not necessarily a judgement of the genre as a whole. In any case, as you may be aware, I&#8217;m doing well enough in India and the fact that the genres are growing so well here is itself the most encouraging fact of all! India&#8217;s actually on the upwards slope of a very promising upswing in the publishing field and the future is especially bright for writers of genre. For instance, Vikram Chandra&#8217;s Sacred Games actually sold as well in India as in the US, and is only one of several such recent titles to do so. The day has already come when English-language books in India can earn an author (myself included) far more than US advances and royalties, and that&#8217;s money coming from readers who ALL &#8216;get&#8217; what we&#8217;re doing&#8211;as against the few who could be expected to understand Indian culture, motifs, characters, backgrounds, language, etc in the American publishing genres. </p>
<p>The list by Anil above is a mixed one, some odd choices with some very good ones&#8211;if you don&#8217;t mind my saying so, Anil. Also, several of them are already published in the UK and USA. If I had to make a list of genre writers who aren&#8217;t published in the USA or UK (and not even widely in India, or in English in India), it would be far, far longer and a very different list. In fact, that&#8217;s a list I am actually compiling&#8211;originally, I began doing it several years ago for John Clute who had asked me to contribute to the new edition of his Encyclopaedia, but I later decided it merited a book unto itself. Still in the research stage, but I am continuing to track that strange nameless beast that shambles through this &#8216;dark&#8217; subcontinent, roaring in a melange of Sanskrit, Gujarati, Urdu, Thamizh, Malayalam, Oriya, and so many other tongues. We are many; our name is Bharat!</p>
<p>All the best,</p>
<p>Ashok</p>
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		<title>By: In Search of Indian Science Fiction: Anil Menon Interview by Vandana Singh Leads to Lively Discussion &#171; Bill Ectric&#8217;s Place</title>
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		<dc:creator>In Search of Indian Science Fiction: Anil Menon Interview by Vandana Singh Leads to Lively Discussion &#171; Bill Ectric&#8217;s Place</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: Vandana Singh</title>
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		<dc:creator>Vandana Singh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Oct 2008 02:20:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I want to make a couple of points.  Ashok, I am not speaking for anyone but myself, but I want to say this: that I am not dismissing your negative experience with publishers here.  Your experience is what you went through and it can&#039;t be wished away.  Racism and various kinds of prejudices have unfortunately not vanished.  I&#039;ve myself been at the receiving end of some negative stereotyping here, but I&#039;m a low profile author and more likely to end up hanging out with people who &quot;get it.&quot;  I can speculative, at least, that high-profile writers with a lot more money involved in the deal could be under more pressure to conform to stereotypes or other constraints, and thus be subjected to the sort of ugliness you describe.  I&#039;ve only had to deal with one major publisher, who was wonderful, and a bunch of small press folks driven by ideals and passion, who were interested in the kind of thing I write.  My experience gives me hope that there are all kinds of people here, and that many of them of them are willing to open their minds to what I have to say.  My Indian audience remains of central importance to me, however.  So my way of working things out is to publish my books in India first, before publishing them here.  I haven&#039;t been able to do that with my short stories but my first short story collection should be out in India before anywhere else.  

I wish you the best. 

Vandana</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I want to make a couple of points.  Ashok, I am not speaking for anyone but myself, but I want to say this: that I am not dismissing your negative experience with publishers here.  Your experience is what you went through and it can&#8217;t be wished away.  Racism and various kinds of prejudices have unfortunately not vanished.  I&#8217;ve myself been at the receiving end of some negative stereotyping here, but I&#8217;m a low profile author and more likely to end up hanging out with people who &#8220;get it.&#8221;  I can speculative, at least, that high-profile writers with a lot more money involved in the deal could be under more pressure to conform to stereotypes or other constraints, and thus be subjected to the sort of ugliness you describe.  I&#8217;ve only had to deal with one major publisher, who was wonderful, and a bunch of small press folks driven by ideals and passion, who were interested in the kind of thing I write.  My experience gives me hope that there are all kinds of people here, and that many of them of them are willing to open their minds to what I have to say.  My Indian audience remains of central importance to me, however.  So my way of working things out is to publish my books in India first, before publishing them here.  I haven&#8217;t been able to do that with my short stories but my first short story collection should be out in India before anywhere else.  </p>
<p>I wish you the best. </p>
<p>Vandana</p>
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		<title>By: Anil Menon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anil Menon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Oct 2008 11:50:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jeff,

Ref: &quot;a selection of English language books&quot; 

Here&#039;s a list, in no particular order. 

Raja Rao -- Kanthapura. 
This is told from the p.o.v. of an old village woman about the consequences of a cool new technology called nonviolent civil disobedience. 

Aravind Adiga -- The White Tiger 
Adiga&#039;s debut novel is often described as being amoral, but no book-burnings yet, so I&#039;m assuming it appeals to people on some moral level. 

Mahatma Gandhi -- My Experiments With Truth
A great piece of fiction. Truly.

G. V. Desani -- All About H. Hatterr
Written with the best butter. A major influence on Rushdie, and the blurb notes with satisfaction that T. S. Eliot couldn&#039;t make head or tail of this book.

Qurratulain Hyder --A River of Fire.
A great book for colonialist readers in mood for some abuse. According to Wikipedia, &quot;Quarratulain&quot; means &quot;eyeball&quot; and as if this unfair advantage isn&#039;t enough, Hyder is bloody brilliant too.

Kiran Nagarkar -- Cuckold
What if God&#039;s having an affair with the missus? Nagarkar&#039;s novel is told from the perspective of Raja Bhoj, the husband of Meera-bhai, the real-life Rajputana princess who at an early age fell into Krishna and never fully emerged. This is not about Meera-bhai though. It&#039;s about her husband. The Cuckold of India. 

Upamanyu Chatterjee--  English August: An Indian Story
This book really pissed me off when I first read it. It has the kind of John Cusak protagonist who wanders through a graveyard wondering about all the women he could have laid. But once I set aside the moral yoke, not only was I lighter, the book was also a lot more fun. There&#039;s a scene with a Mahatma Gandhi statue that&#039;s particularly memorable.

Premendra Mitra -- Mosquito and Other Stories : Ghana-Da&#039;s Tall Tales
This is a set of translated stories, but utterly wonderful.

I&#039;d include Dalyrymple, Allan Sealy, Samit Basu, Sarnath Bannerjee, the sampler anthologies of Rushdie and Chaudhuri and so on, but this list is already too long.   

Anil</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jeff,</p>
<p>Ref: &#8220;a selection of English language books&#8221; </p>
<p>Here&#8217;s a list, in no particular order. </p>
<p>Raja Rao &#8212; Kanthapura.<br />
This is told from the p.o.v. of an old village woman about the consequences of a cool new technology called nonviolent civil disobedience. </p>
<p>Aravind Adiga &#8212; The White Tiger<br />
Adiga&#8217;s debut novel is often described as being amoral, but no book-burnings yet, so I&#8217;m assuming it appeals to people on some moral level. </p>
<p>Mahatma Gandhi &#8212; My Experiments With Truth<br />
A great piece of fiction. Truly.</p>
<p>G. V. Desani &#8212; All About H. Hatterr<br />
Written with the best butter. A major influence on Rushdie, and the blurb notes with satisfaction that T. S. Eliot couldn&#8217;t make head or tail of this book.</p>
<p>Qurratulain Hyder &#8211;A River of Fire.<br />
A great book for colonialist readers in mood for some abuse. According to Wikipedia, &#8220;Quarratulain&#8221; means &#8220;eyeball&#8221; and as if this unfair advantage isn&#8217;t enough, Hyder is bloody brilliant too.</p>
<p>Kiran Nagarkar &#8212; Cuckold<br />
What if God&#8217;s having an affair with the missus? Nagarkar&#8217;s novel is told from the perspective of Raja Bhoj, the husband of Meera-bhai, the real-life Rajputana princess who at an early age fell into Krishna and never fully emerged. This is not about Meera-bhai though. It&#8217;s about her husband. The Cuckold of India. </p>
<p>Upamanyu Chatterjee&#8211;  English August: An Indian Story<br />
This book really pissed me off when I first read it. It has the kind of John Cusak protagonist who wanders through a graveyard wondering about all the women he could have laid. But once I set aside the moral yoke, not only was I lighter, the book was also a lot more fun. There&#8217;s a scene with a Mahatma Gandhi statue that&#8217;s particularly memorable.</p>
<p>Premendra Mitra &#8212; Mosquito and Other Stories : Ghana-Da&#8217;s Tall Tales<br />
This is a set of translated stories, but utterly wonderful.</p>
<p>I&#8217;d include Dalyrymple, Allan Sealy, Samit Basu, Sarnath Bannerjee, the sampler anthologies of Rushdie and Chaudhuri and so on, but this list is already too long.   </p>
<p>Anil</p>
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		<title>By: Ashok Banker</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ashok Banker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Oct 2008 04:54:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jeff, if you&#039;re speaking about me and my work, you&#039;re misinformed. I&#039;m not talking about &#039;success&#039; or the lack of it--merely about bias and treatment of non-white non-American authors. As for success, well, I have a substantial Hollywood deal, the books have gone through 21 printings and have close to half a million copies in print worldwide and last year alone my contribution to the IRS was in six-figures. The discussion had nothing to do with sales, commercial success, or the &#039;public persona&#039; of the author (whatever that may mean). It was about labels, profiling, and bias. I&#039;m talking about the same treatment that Rohinton Mistry received when attempting to enter the USA to appear on Oprah a few years ago--you could Google it online and look it up. As in that case, while I&#039;m sure the Department of Homeland Security and other authorities felt quite complacent and self-assured in racially profiling him, and put all his objections down to his own &#039;perception&#039; the reality was quite different. 

I&#039;m one of those people who believe that reality is reality and perception is perception. I have faced racial abuse, bigotry, religious prejudice and bias, and those are not forgivable. Nor are they the only treatment I&#039;ve received from American SFF publishers, authors, writers, bloggers and reviewers--I&#039;ve had my share of good treatment too. But the fact that I experienced such bias, prejudice, bigotry and abuse cannot simply be wished away by blaming it on perception and I think you do me and all sufferers of such abuse a great disservice by attempting to deny that any such abuse occurred at all. 

This being your blog, I&#039;m sure you will have the last word but let me say this clearly: There are bigots and racists in the SFF field in the USA and they appear to be somewhat more vocal, numerous and tolerated than in other publishing genres or even in the SFF genre in other countries. Your comments only underline the root of the problem itself, which is, in three words, &#039;Denial, denial, denial&#039;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jeff, if you&#8217;re speaking about me and my work, you&#8217;re misinformed. I&#8217;m not talking about &#8217;success&#8217; or the lack of it&#8211;merely about bias and treatment of non-white non-American authors. As for success, well, I have a substantial Hollywood deal, the books have gone through 21 printings and have close to half a million copies in print worldwide and last year alone my contribution to the IRS was in six-figures. The discussion had nothing to do with sales, commercial success, or the &#8216;public persona&#8217; of the author (whatever that may mean). It was about labels, profiling, and bias. I&#8217;m talking about the same treatment that Rohinton Mistry received when attempting to enter the USA to appear on Oprah a few years ago&#8211;you could Google it online and look it up. As in that case, while I&#8217;m sure the Department of Homeland Security and other authorities felt quite complacent and self-assured in racially profiling him, and put all his objections down to his own &#8216;perception&#8217; the reality was quite different. </p>
<p>I&#8217;m one of those people who believe that reality is reality and perception is perception. I have faced racial abuse, bigotry, religious prejudice and bias, and those are not forgivable. Nor are they the only treatment I&#8217;ve received from American SFF publishers, authors, writers, bloggers and reviewers&#8211;I&#8217;ve had my share of good treatment too. But the fact that I experienced such bias, prejudice, bigotry and abuse cannot simply be wished away by blaming it on perception and I think you do me and all sufferers of such abuse a great disservice by attempting to deny that any such abuse occurred at all. </p>
<p>This being your blog, I&#8217;m sure you will have the last word but let me say this clearly: There are bigots and racists in the SFF field in the USA and they appear to be somewhat more vocal, numerous and tolerated than in other publishing genres or even in the SFF genre in other countries. Your comments only underline the root of the problem itself, which is, in three words, &#8216;Denial, denial, denial&#8217;.</p>
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