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	<title>Comments on: Why the Twilight Series Bugs Me</title>
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		<title>By: Luí­s Rodrigues</title>
		<link>http://www.jeffvandermeer.com/2008/09/24/why-the-twilight-series-bugs-me/comment-page-3/#comment-16860</link>
		<dc:creator>Luí­s Rodrigues</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Nov 2008 19:53:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As much as I hate being the oppressor here, I feel this &quot;conversation&quot; has reached its limit in terms of usefulness and civility, so I&#039;m closing down the comments.  If you still have something else to say, then kindly get your own fucking blog and use that instead.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As much as I hate being the oppressor here, I feel this &#8220;conversation&#8221; has reached its limit in terms of usefulness and civility, so I&#8217;m closing down the comments.  If you still have something else to say, then kindly get your own fucking blog and use that instead.</p>
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		<title>By: Lumpy</title>
		<link>http://www.jeffvandermeer.com/2008/09/24/why-the-twilight-series-bugs-me/comment-page-3/#comment-16798</link>
		<dc:creator>Lumpy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Nov 2008 15:36:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Spencer Ellsworth:

Wow. You are so wrong about LOTR on many points.

- the aforementioned LotR does too–even in the movies, the black-and-dusky-skinned races get torn apart by the much nobler white races. -

Actually morally ambiguous races if you read the Appendices and especially the Silmarillion and Unfinished Tales.

- Then there’s the imperialist wish-fulfillment of other races disappearing and making room for Men–these same noble white men. -

Only the Elves and Orcs disappear. Aragorn actually offers peace and alliances to the south and east nations of Men.
 
- And there’s the implication that if we just got rid of industry things would be better–forgetting that industry made possible things like, oh, penicillin. -

Well, Tolkien was what we would call a Luddite.

- And Eowyn and Arwen pining over Aragorn as he goes out and has adventures. And Arwen giving up eternal life and her own culture to be with the man she loves. -

Fact of life.

- It’s the Haradrim who are described as “swarthy.” Also the black Haradrim are described as “troll-men.” -

No, some Gondorians were indeed swarthy. And some black Haradrim are indeed called &quot;troll-men&quot;, but first they are called &quot;like half-trolls&quot;. It&#039;s possible they actually -were- half-trolls.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Spencer Ellsworth:</p>
<p>Wow. You are so wrong about LOTR on many points.</p>
<p>- the aforementioned LotR does too–even in the movies, the black-and-dusky-skinned races get torn apart by the much nobler white races. -</p>
<p>Actually morally ambiguous races if you read the Appendices and especially the Silmarillion and Unfinished Tales.</p>
<p>- Then there’s the imperialist wish-fulfillment of other races disappearing and making room for Men–these same noble white men. -</p>
<p>Only the Elves and Orcs disappear. Aragorn actually offers peace and alliances to the south and east nations of Men.</p>
<p>- And there’s the implication that if we just got rid of industry things would be better–forgetting that industry made possible things like, oh, penicillin. -</p>
<p>Well, Tolkien was what we would call a Luddite.</p>
<p>- And Eowyn and Arwen pining over Aragorn as he goes out and has adventures. And Arwen giving up eternal life and her own culture to be with the man she loves. -</p>
<p>Fact of life.</p>
<p>- It’s the Haradrim who are described as “swarthy.” Also the black Haradrim are described as “troll-men.” -</p>
<p>No, some Gondorians were indeed swarthy. And some black Haradrim are indeed called &#8220;troll-men&#8221;, but first they are called &#8220;like half-trolls&#8221;. It&#8217;s possible they actually -were- half-trolls.</p>
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		<title>By: Amanda</title>
		<link>http://www.jeffvandermeer.com/2008/09/24/why-the-twilight-series-bugs-me/comment-page-3/#comment-16791</link>
		<dc:creator>Amanda</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Nov 2008 02:14:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And I do like the Twilight series, a lot.  So, don&#039;t even try to throw that back at me.  I just hate the fact that you and your cronies cannot use real words or write in complete sentences...you know that the real world uses them, right?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And I do like the Twilight series, a lot.  So, don&#8217;t even try to throw that back at me.  I just hate the fact that you and your cronies cannot use real words or write in complete sentences&#8230;you know that the real world uses them, right?</p>
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		<title>By: Amanda</title>
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		<dc:creator>Amanda</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Nov 2008 02:10:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lucy,

The problem with your grammar, or lack there of, is that YOU ARE NOT ON IM OR TEXTING ON A FREAKING PHONE!  Grow up!  Then you can come on here and use &quot;big girl words&quot; to make your points and maybe some of us will understand WTF you are saying!

Jesus, doesn&#039;t anyone under the age of 20 know how to write in complete sentences with whole words?  So annoying!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lucy,</p>
<p>The problem with your grammar, or lack there of, is that YOU ARE NOT ON IM OR TEXTING ON A FREAKING PHONE!  Grow up!  Then you can come on here and use &#8220;big girl words&#8221; to make your points and maybe some of us will understand WTF you are saying!</p>
<p>Jesus, doesn&#8217;t anyone under the age of 20 know how to write in complete sentences with whole words?  So annoying!!!</p>
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		<title>By: lucy</title>
		<link>http://www.jeffvandermeer.com/2008/09/24/why-the-twilight-series-bugs-me/comment-page-3/#comment-16730</link>
		<dc:creator>lucy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Nov 2008 15:38:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>HAHAHAHA MOOOOOHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>HAHAHAHA MOOOOOHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!</p>
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		<title>By: lucy</title>
		<link>http://www.jeffvandermeer.com/2008/09/24/why-the-twilight-series-bugs-me/comment-page-3/#comment-16729</link>
		<dc:creator>lucy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Nov 2008 15:21:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>PULL THE STICK OUT OFF US ASSES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>PULL THE STICK OUT OFF US ASSES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!</p>
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		<title>By: lucy</title>
		<link>http://www.jeffvandermeer.com/2008/09/24/why-the-twilight-series-bugs-me/comment-page-3/#comment-16728</link>
		<dc:creator>lucy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Nov 2008 15:20:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>hahahahahahahahhahah!!!!!!!!!! its so great i leav a negative commit then every twilight fan attacks ur ass.....next time u shuld think twice about messn wth twilight!!!!!!!!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hahahahahahahahhahah!!!!!!!!!! its so great i leav a negative commit then every twilight fan attacks ur ass&#8230;..next time u shuld think twice about messn wth twilight!!!!!!!!!!</p>
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		<title>By: Dont dis the twilight series</title>
		<link>http://www.jeffvandermeer.com/2008/09/24/why-the-twilight-series-bugs-me/comment-page-3/#comment-16694</link>
		<dc:creator>Dont dis the twilight series</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Nov 2008 01:32:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>ur an idiot anyone with eyes knos the twilight series rock!!!!! and bella doesnt think like what you say,
anyone who agrees with this bi*** is an f***ing retard</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ur an idiot anyone with eyes knos the twilight series rock!!!!! and bella doesnt think like what you say,<br />
anyone who agrees with this bi*** is an f***ing retard</p>
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		<title>By: Kiss my ass</title>
		<link>http://www.jeffvandermeer.com/2008/09/24/why-the-twilight-series-bugs-me/comment-page-3/#comment-16678</link>
		<dc:creator>Kiss my ass</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Nov 2008 19:05:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>yeahh well we wouldnt have to if this bitch knew anything about books in general</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>yeahh well we wouldnt have to if this bitch knew anything about books in general</p>
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		<title>By: Luís Rodrigues</title>
		<link>http://www.jeffvandermeer.com/2008/09/24/why-the-twilight-series-bugs-me/comment-page-3/#comment-16673</link>
		<dc:creator>Luís Rodrigues</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Nov 2008 16:49:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I really love watching you people get so worked up over a book.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I really love watching you people get so worked up over a book.</p>
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