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		<title>By: Ian Sales</title>
		<link>http://www.jeffvandermeer.com/2008/08/05/what-makes-you-stop-reading-a-review/comment-page-1/#comment-14760</link>
		<dc:creator>Ian Sales</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Aug 2008 08:17:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;... a reviewer’s inability to differentiate between auctorial intent and the reviewer’s impression of said intent.&quot; 

Eh? Unless the reviewer has spoken with the author, how can they know their intent? They can only go with what is in the text - and that will be the reviewer&#039;s perception, or impression, of the author&#039;s intent. Another reviewer might perceive something all together different. But that doesn&#039;t invalidate the first reviewers&#039;s perception.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;&#8230; a reviewer’s inability to differentiate between auctorial intent and the reviewer’s impression of said intent.&#8221; </p>
<p>Eh? Unless the reviewer has spoken with the author, how can they know their intent? They can only go with what is in the text &#8211; and that will be the reviewer&#8217;s perception, or impression, of the author&#8217;s intent. Another reviewer might perceive something all together different. But that doesn&#8217;t invalidate the first reviewers&#8217;s perception.</p>
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		<title>By: Links for 6th August 2008 part 2 &#124; Velcro City Tourist Board</title>
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		<dc:creator>Links for 6th August 2008 part 2 &#124; Velcro City Tourist Board</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Aug 2008 07:52:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] What makes you stop reading a review?&#8220;&#8230; once someone claims that what they are doing is a proper review, it seems to me that there are some things that would be best avoided. I am talking as a reader here, not a writer, and about other people’s books, not mine.&#8221; Some interesting comments here. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] What makes you stop reading a review?&#8220;&#8230; once someone claims that what they are doing is a proper review, it seems to me that there are some things that would be best avoided. I am talking as a reader here, not a writer, and about other people’s books, not mine.&#8221; Some interesting comments here. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: SMD</title>
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		<dc:creator>SMD</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Aug 2008 04:19:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh, goodness, Larry.  I might have been guilty of that at one point.  If I ever did such a thing I sincerely apologize.  Generally I like to point out flaws in a novel and sometimes I spend more time pointing those out than the good so it seems like I hate the book :S.  Hopefully I haven&#039;t done that recently.  Ha!  It actually takes a lot to make me hate a story, to be honest.  I&#039;ve only disliked two books to the point where I couldn&#039;t finish them and I &quot;reviewed&quot; one of them (and that&#039;s a whole different argument).  And I&#039;m rambling about crud that doesn&#039;t matter.

I&#039;m quite partial to short reviews, to be honest.  Though I do like the occasional literary reviews (like what Larry does), but it really depends on the subject.  If it&#039;s a fiction book, I want it short and sweet, give me the good and the bad and tell me if it&#039;s good overall and what it&#039;s about.  If it&#039;s something else, such as the awesome SF/F criticism books that Larry has been reading, I like a deeper look into the work.  But I&#039;m also weird.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, goodness, Larry.  I might have been guilty of that at one point.  If I ever did such a thing I sincerely apologize.  Generally I like to point out flaws in a novel and sometimes I spend more time pointing those out than the good so it seems like I hate the book :S.  Hopefully I haven&#8217;t done that recently.  Ha!  It actually takes a lot to make me hate a story, to be honest.  I&#8217;ve only disliked two books to the point where I couldn&#8217;t finish them and I &#8220;reviewed&#8221; one of them (and that&#8217;s a whole different argument).  And I&#8217;m rambling about crud that doesn&#8217;t matter.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m quite partial to short reviews, to be honest.  Though I do like the occasional literary reviews (like what Larry does), but it really depends on the subject.  If it&#8217;s a fiction book, I want it short and sweet, give me the good and the bad and tell me if it&#8217;s good overall and what it&#8217;s about.  If it&#8217;s something else, such as the awesome SF/F criticism books that Larry has been reading, I like a deeper look into the work.  But I&#8217;m also weird.</p>
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		<title>By: Matt&#8217;s Bookosphere 8/5/08 &#171; Enter the Octopus</title>
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		<dc:creator>Matt&#8217;s Bookosphere 8/5/08 &#171; Enter the Octopus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Aug 2008 03:18:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] What makes you stop reading a review?  [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Larry</title>
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		<dc:creator>Larry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Aug 2008 23:37:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I know you weren&#039;t pointing any figures, Kathy, it&#039;s just that I was thinking of someone in particular even before I read your points :P  Agreed on how certain reviewers, despite committing those things you point out, will usually end up finding a &quot;fan base&quot; that has similar outlooks and expectations.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I know you weren&#8217;t pointing any figures, Kathy, it&#8217;s just that I was thinking of someone in particular even before I read your points :P  Agreed on how certain reviewers, despite committing those things you point out, will usually end up finding a &#8220;fan base&#8221; that has similar outlooks and expectations.</p>
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		<title>By: Ekaterina Sedia</title>
		<link>http://www.jeffvandermeer.com/2008/08/05/what-makes-you-stop-reading-a-review/comment-page-1/#comment-14736</link>
		<dc:creator>Ekaterina Sedia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Aug 2008 23:11:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Larry -- as a disclaimer, I didn&#039;t mean any specific person, but rather the sorts of things that tend to appear in reviews frequently, regardless of venue. And again, these are just things I personally find unhelpful -- I mean, they ARE useful for other readers (for example, if a reviewer always describes feminist work as &#039;agenda-driven&#039; then it will be helpful to those readers who want to be warned away from such work.) Same goes for &#039;entertaining&#039; label -- I don&#039;t understand what it means, but others apparently do. 

And yes, good point re: mismatch between the review and conclusion. It can be quite baffling.

And everyone -- thanks for great points! It&#039;s always fascinating to see how people go about reading reviews and selecting their reading material.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Larry &#8212; as a disclaimer, I didn&#8217;t mean any specific person, but rather the sorts of things that tend to appear in reviews frequently, regardless of venue. And again, these are just things I personally find unhelpful &#8212; I mean, they ARE useful for other readers (for example, if a reviewer always describes feminist work as &#8216;agenda-driven&#8217; then it will be helpful to those readers who want to be warned away from such work.) Same goes for &#8216;entertaining&#8217; label &#8212; I don&#8217;t understand what it means, but others apparently do. </p>
<p>And yes, good point re: mismatch between the review and conclusion. It can be quite baffling.</p>
<p>And everyone &#8212; thanks for great points! It&#8217;s always fascinating to see how people go about reading reviews and selecting their reading material.</p>
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		<title>By: Larry</title>
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		<dc:creator>Larry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Aug 2008 22:43:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I swear when I read your post, Kathy, that one particular fan reviewer came to mind as one who does virtually all of those things in his reviews.  Not that I&#039;m going to name names here, though :P

You pretty much named things that are bugaboos for me as well.  I&#039;d also add this:  Reviews in which the criticism/praise do not match the concluding statements.  I&#039;ve read reviews by a certain few where it seemed that he/she was really dogging the writer&#039;s story, characters, etc., only to see a praise-filled conclusion.  Baffling.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I swear when I read your post, Kathy, that one particular fan reviewer came to mind as one who does virtually all of those things in his reviews.  Not that I&#8217;m going to name names here, though :P</p>
<p>You pretty much named things that are bugaboos for me as well.  I&#8217;d also add this:  Reviews in which the criticism/praise do not match the concluding statements.  I&#8217;ve read reviews by a certain few where it seemed that he/she was really dogging the writer&#8217;s story, characters, etc., only to see a praise-filled conclusion.  Baffling.</p>
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		<title>By: n.fonseca</title>
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		<dc:creator>n.fonseca</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Aug 2008 21:57:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What I find most irritating is finishing a review without getting to know simple facts like &quot;After all the talk, did this person liked or disliked the damn story?&quot;, and knowing too much of the storyline, which is a major bummer - one of the reasons we all like reading is the story, right? getting to the next page to find it out...not reading about it beforehand.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What I find most irritating is finishing a review without getting to know simple facts like &#8220;After all the talk, did this person liked or disliked the damn story?&#8221;, and knowing too much of the storyline, which is a major bummer &#8211; one of the reasons we all like reading is the story, right? getting to the next page to find it out&#8230;not reading about it beforehand.</p>
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		<title>By: Richard Parks</title>
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		<dc:creator>Richard Parks</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Aug 2008 20:42:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>When it&#039;s clear the reviewer is more interested in showing off than in reviewing the book, that&#039;s when I stop reading.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When it&#8217;s clear the reviewer is more interested in showing off than in reviewing the book, that&#8217;s when I stop reading.</p>
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		<title>By: SMD</title>
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		<dc:creator>SMD</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Aug 2008 17:21:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Long-windedness.
I know some folks really like the deep, heavily analytical reviews, but I&#039;m not a fan only because when I&#039;m reading a review I&#039;m trying to determine if I think the book in question is something I&#039;d like to read.  I want the review to get to the point.  Is it good?  Is the writing style readable?  Is it entertaining?  What&#039;s wrong with it?  What&#039;s great about it?  etc.  If the reviewer offers a rating, cool, if not, oh well.  I usually skim reviews to look for the high and low points and make a decision.  Sometimes even a bad review will get me interested in a book and I&#039;ll buy it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Long-windedness.<br />
I know some folks really like the deep, heavily analytical reviews, but I&#8217;m not a fan only because when I&#8217;m reading a review I&#8217;m trying to determine if I think the book in question is something I&#8217;d like to read.  I want the review to get to the point.  Is it good?  Is the writing style readable?  Is it entertaining?  What&#8217;s wrong with it?  What&#8217;s great about it?  etc.  If the reviewer offers a rating, cool, if not, oh well.  I usually skim reviews to look for the high and low points and make a decision.  Sometimes even a bad review will get me interested in a book and I&#8217;ll buy it.</p>
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