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	<title>Comments on: Permission to Fail, Captain!</title>
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		<title>By: Will Hindmarch</title>
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		<dc:creator>Will Hindmarch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Jun 2008 16:30:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Permission to fail is something I&#039;ve never been good at and I truly do think it holds me back. What to do?!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Permission to fail is something I&#8217;ve never been good at and I truly do think it holds me back. What to do?!</p>
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		<title>By: Jeff VanderMeer</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jeff VanderMeer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Jun 2008 16:19:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah, that&#039;s true, actually. I&#039;d totally blocked that from memory. LOL. I think I was so inside of the process and so committed to it, I had no choice.
Jeff</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, that&#8217;s true, actually. I&#8217;d totally blocked that from memory. LOL. I think I was so inside of the process and so committed to it, I had no choice.<br />
Jeff</p>
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		<title>By: John</title>
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		<dc:creator>John</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Jun 2008 15:53:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>True enough, but what about &lt;i&gt;City of Saints and Madmen&lt;/i&gt;? I&#039;ve read your piece about its road to publication, and frankly it sounds like it almost killed you to finish it. The publication process sounds harrowing, but everything that went into it... well, it&#039;s not exactly a &quot;write 90K words, polish, submit&quot; scenario. You must have had very deep faith to keep on keeping on. Even as a published novelist &amp; short story writer, &lt;i&gt;City&lt;/i&gt; was (or sounds, at least) like a whole different level of effort. It must have been terrifying! I&#039;d think the same of &lt;i&gt;House of Leaves&lt;/i&gt;, in its way.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>True enough, but what about <i>City of Saints and Madmen</i>? I&#8217;ve read your piece about its road to publication, and frankly it sounds like it almost killed you to finish it. The publication process sounds harrowing, but everything that went into it&#8230; well, it&#8217;s not exactly a &#8220;write 90K words, polish, submit&#8221; scenario. You must have had very deep faith to keep on keeping on. Even as a published novelist &amp; short story writer, <i>City</i> was (or sounds, at least) like a whole different level of effort. It must have been terrifying! I&#8217;d think the same of <i>House of Leaves</i>, in its way.</p>
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		<title>By: Jeff VanderMeer</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jeff VanderMeer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Jun 2008 13:28:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>John:

That&#039;s a really good point, re big, ambitious books. I&#039;d be pretty nervous if it was the first thing I attempted as a writer, that&#039;s for sure! Although I remember as a teenager writing these godawful rip-offs of Patricia McKillip, Tolkien, etc. Most of them I&#039;d get half-way through (novels) and then couldn&#039;t figure out how to go on. So at least I never had that horrible feeling of finishing a book and then not being able to publish it.
Jeff</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>John:</p>
<p>That&#8217;s a really good point, re big, ambitious books. I&#8217;d be pretty nervous if it was the first thing I attempted as a writer, that&#8217;s for sure! Although I remember as a teenager writing these godawful rip-offs of Patricia McKillip, Tolkien, etc. Most of them I&#8217;d get half-way through (novels) and then couldn&#8217;t figure out how to go on. So at least I never had that horrible feeling of finishing a book and then not being able to publish it.<br />
Jeff</p>
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		<title>By: John</title>
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		<dc:creator>John</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Jun 2008 12:02:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Encouraging post, for all sorts of reasons, so thank you for reposting. I like the idea of permission to fail, and it&#039;s something &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=91232541&amp;ft=1&amp;f=3&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;another author talked about recently&lt;/a&gt; as well. 

Lately I&#039;ve been thinking about Elizabeth Kostova&#039;s &lt;i&gt;The Historian&lt;/i&gt;, which took years to write, is dense and neo-Victorian, and is something that I think very few writers would feel encouraged to try for their first novel, largely for fear of failure. The same thing could be said of Susanna Clarke&#039;s &lt;i&gt;Jonathan Strange &amp; Mr. Norrell&lt;/i&gt;. Both were big, ambitious books, and from a fearful-of-failure standpoint horribly risky. What happens if you spend ten years on a novel, only to find it doesn&#039;t work? I guess you never know until you try.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Encouraging post, for all sorts of reasons, so thank you for reposting. I like the idea of permission to fail, and it&#8217;s something <a href="http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=91232541&amp;ft=1&amp;f=3" rel="nofollow">another author talked about recently</a> as well. </p>
<p>Lately I&#8217;ve been thinking about Elizabeth Kostova&#8217;s <i>The Historian</i>, which took years to write, is dense and neo-Victorian, and is something that I think very few writers would feel encouraged to try for their first novel, largely for fear of failure. The same thing could be said of Susanna Clarke&#8217;s <i>Jonathan Strange &amp; Mr. Norrell</i>. Both were big, ambitious books, and from a fearful-of-failure standpoint horribly risky. What happens if you spend ten years on a novel, only to find it doesn&#8217;t work? I guess you never know until you try.</p>
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		<title>By: Larry</title>
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		<dc:creator>Larry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Jun 2008 22:04:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I remember reading a Samuel Beckett quote on a similar topic:  &quot;Fail Better.&quot;  Advice like that has meant more to me than vague pleasantries or earnest optimism.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I remember reading a Samuel Beckett quote on a similar topic:  &#8220;Fail Better.&#8221;  Advice like that has meant more to me than vague pleasantries or earnest optimism.</p>
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