Was the Iron Dragon’s Daughter an influence on some of the New Weird authors? It’s been a long time since I read it, but it seems to have some similarities with Mieville.
That was one of the first fantasy books that totally blew my mind, Gormenghast being another one.
Hopefully everybody remembers Trollpunk – it’s much better than Elfpunk!
At least here in Finland the Trollpunk-phenomenan started in the mid 1990′s. The most famous Trollpunk-book (there are also a few comics) in Finland is Johanna Sinisalo’s Tiptree award winning Ennen päivänlaskua ei voi (Not Before Sundown in the UK & Troll: A Love Story in the USA) that’s been translated to over 10 languages. There’s even been some university studies about Trollpunk.
I think there’s something to be said for the idea of “Orcpunk” or something similar. Those poor souls have often been identified in (post)modern fantasy as one misunderstood ethnic group or another. The idea of race and racial borders has always been central to fantasy, which is odd considering the recognition of the constructed nature of race that occurred in the 20th century. I’d love to read some work that explodes those constructions and really examines the borders we create in our fantasy.
April 27, 2008 at 10:58 pm
Strange, considering I wouldn’t have thought of Shepard’s book in that light…
What’s next? Orcpunk?
April 27, 2008 at 11:28 pm
I thought the Bordertown anthologies started that back in the ’90s.
April 27, 2008 at 11:34 pm
80s. Mid-80s.
April 28, 2008 at 12:14 am
I’m just waiting for Dwarfpunk to take off. It’ll be my big break ;)
April 28, 2008 at 12:54 am
Adam, Jay Lake’s Trial of Flowers does feature a dwarf quite prominently…
April 28, 2008 at 1:04 am
Thanks, Larry! I’ll have to pick that up.
April 28, 2008 at 4:27 am
Was the Iron Dragon’s Daughter an influence on some of the New Weird authors? It’s been a long time since I read it, but it seems to have some similarities with Mieville.
That was one of the first fantasy books that totally blew my mind, Gormenghast being another one.
April 28, 2008 at 5:06 am
Hopefully everybody remembers Trollpunk – it’s much better than Elfpunk!
At least here in Finland the Trollpunk-phenomenan started in the mid 1990′s. The most famous Trollpunk-book (there are also a few comics) in Finland is Johanna Sinisalo’s Tiptree award winning Ennen päivänlaskua ei voi (Not Before Sundown in the UK & Troll: A Love Story in the USA) that’s been translated to over 10 languages. There’s even been some university studies about Trollpunk.
Trollpunk rules!
April 28, 2008 at 7:53 am
Politically, some ties to Mieville, I’d think (although I can’t speak for him). Stylistically and tone-wise…complete opposite.
JV
April 28, 2008 at 9:26 am
I think there’s something to be said for the idea of “Orcpunk” or something similar. Those poor souls have often been identified in (post)modern fantasy as one misunderstood ethnic group or another. The idea of race and racial borders has always been central to fantasy, which is odd considering the recognition of the constructed nature of race that occurred in the 20th century. I’d love to read some work that explodes those constructions and really examines the borders we create in our fantasy.
April 28, 2008 at 10:12 am
I plan to pioneer the genre of punkpunk, which is centrally preoccupied with short stories about Sid Vicious waking up in his own vomit.
April 28, 2008 at 3:51 pm
I saw an episode of The Simpsons the other night where they retold the Sid ‘n’ Nancy story. That was seriously strange.
April 28, 2008 at 4:37 pm
Slimepunk, here. Sid Viscous.
April 28, 2008 at 4:51 pm
Is there room, in today’s crowded literary environment, for the simple, heartfelt pleas of the undercity cannibal?
If so – prepare for C.H.U.DPunk!
April 28, 2008 at 5:23 pm
I’m willing to read (and listen to) a great many punk forms, but if any of you dare start scatpunk, I’m disowning you.