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	<title>Comments on: Weird Tales: Sarah Monette on Catastrophe</title>
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		<title>By: SenLac</title>
		<link>http://www.jeffvandermeer.com/2008/01/08/weird-tales-sarah-monette-on-catastrophe/comment-page-1/#comment-5712</link>
		<dc:creator>SenLac</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Jan 2008 18:48:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Stace: V, anyone? :)

Or, perhaps more seriously, the renewed BSG?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Stace: V, anyone? :)</p>
<p>Or, perhaps more seriously, the renewed BSG?</p>
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		<title>By: SenLac</title>
		<link>http://www.jeffvandermeer.com/2008/01/08/weird-tales-sarah-monette-on-catastrophe/comment-page-1/#comment-5711</link>
		<dc:creator>SenLac</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Jan 2008 18:46:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That dialogue, Bill, is precisely the kind of thing you will see in any Ricky Gervais or Larry David (latterly) show. Excruciating reality.

The reason we&#039;ve (mostly) seen that only in comedy is because it is hard to deal with in any other way other than laughing off the cringe. A special kind of schadenfreude, to be sure.

Harder to do in the written word, I think. No examples of it spring to mind (although I&#039;m sure someone wider-read and broader of mind than me will point to examples dating back centuries...did Shakespeare do this? Yeah, he probably did. Ben Johnson did it too, and more frequently, I think).

I&#039;m not sure Lunar Park works as an example, Kelly, since although he lays down - open and wounded - a lot of what he went through, the thrust of the story is wildly escapist horror (catharsis, mostly - a way for the writer to realise how bad things COULD be, or at least rationalise the paranoia that inevitably comes from such a lifestyle). It&#039;s not so much dealing with a catastrophe as creating a constantly growing one that is safe because it didn&#039;t happen.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That dialogue, Bill, is precisely the kind of thing you will see in any Ricky Gervais or Larry David (latterly) show. Excruciating reality.</p>
<p>The reason we&#8217;ve (mostly) seen that only in comedy is because it is hard to deal with in any other way other than laughing off the cringe. A special kind of schadenfreude, to be sure.</p>
<p>Harder to do in the written word, I think. No examples of it spring to mind (although I&#8217;m sure someone wider-read and broader of mind than me will point to examples dating back centuries&#8230;did Shakespeare do this? Yeah, he probably did. Ben Johnson did it too, and more frequently, I think).</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not sure Lunar Park works as an example, Kelly, since although he lays down &#8211; open and wounded &#8211; a lot of what he went through, the thrust of the story is wildly escapist horror (catharsis, mostly &#8211; a way for the writer to realise how bad things COULD be, or at least rationalise the paranoia that inevitably comes from such a lifestyle). It&#8217;s not so much dealing with a catastrophe as creating a constantly growing one that is safe because it didn&#8217;t happen.</p>
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		<title>By: Stace Dumoski</title>
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		<dc:creator>Stace Dumoski</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Jan 2008 18:29:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve always thought that the more interesting tale would be what happens after humanity fights off the invading aliens (e.g. Independence Day).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve always thought that the more interesting tale would be what happens after humanity fights off the invading aliens (e.g. Independence Day).</p>
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		<title>By: Bill Ruhsam</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bill Ruhsam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Jan 2008 17:29:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;d love to hear the dialogue over the dinner table when the boyfriend-with-condoms sits down to eat with his girlfriend&#039;s family (assuming it was a family dinner date).  It is too bad the story is from so far in the bast.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;d love to hear the dialogue over the dinner table when the boyfriend-with-condoms sits down to eat with his girlfriend&#8217;s family (assuming it was a family dinner date).  It is too bad the story is from so far in the bast.</p>
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		<title>By: Heather Gladney</title>
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		<dc:creator>Heather Gladney</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Jan 2008 05:54:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A related word for that truncated story structure is &quot;sentimentality,&quot; when you demand an emotional impact on the reader (or viewer) which you have not earned.  Many pictures painted on velvet commit this crime in a clear and obvious way, as one example.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A related word for that truncated story structure is &#8220;sentimentality,&#8221; when you demand an emotional impact on the reader (or viewer) which you have not earned.  Many pictures painted on velvet commit this crime in a clear and obvious way, as one example.</p>
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		<title>By: kellys</title>
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		<dc:creator>kellys</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Jan 2008 17:41:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah, thanks for this. As a reader, what you&#039;re saying resonates for me. Especially since I just finished Bret Easton Ellis&#039; awesome Lunar Park, which is 400 pages of living with consequences.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, thanks for this. As a reader, what you&#8217;re saying resonates for me. Especially since I just finished Bret Easton Ellis&#8217; awesome Lunar Park, which is 400 pages of living with consequences.</p>
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		<title>By: punkrockhockeymom</title>
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		<dc:creator>punkrockhockeymom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Jan 2008 16:17:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is excellent.  Thank you for writing it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is excellent.  Thank you for writing it.</p>
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